[kata-dev] Kata containers weekly use cases meeting - 25th March 2021
Ariel Adam
aadam at redhat.com
Thu Mar 25 13:01:41 UTC 2021
Hi everyone.
Following is today's meeting summary:
Use case #1: K8S CI/CD pipeline with kata containers
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The team is still working to define the goal and scope.
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We should have updates for the next meeting
Use case #2: Confidential computing
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Samuel presented slides
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We got good feedback from RH, IBM and Intel, still pending feedback from
AMD
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Discussing the topic of service mesh and encrypted containers - what
happens when someone pushes a sidecar into the pod? What happens if that
sidecar just prints all the memory to somewhere else :-)...
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Idea would be to encrypt the side car as well, not guaranteeing what’s
inside but yes regarding what you are getting
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This does not violate our threat model which is focusing on knowing
exactly what we are running
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Christophe discussed the topic of the performance cost of using
encrypted memory such as extra disk space - the user should decide if he
wants to encrypted everything or only the top layers
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Smauel pointed out that encrypting only the upper layers would not be
strong enough - If your workload runs on a fedora and you only encrypted
your workload, the fedora could have been hacked and added a bunch of
backdoors
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For IBM the goal is to work with full encryption before talking about
sharing
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The SEV also has a number of issues regarding density as it is so maybe
the additional sharing would not save much - max 512 VMs
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Note that we are talking about SEV per pod (with a kata VM behind)
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We discussed virtio-fs and DAX and the fact that it can’t work with
encrypted memory since you don’t want anything to be shared
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We want to expand the problem statement and scope not only to fully
encrypted images but also signed images
Use case #3: Performance isolation (Tao)
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Working on best practices for the networking path
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Later on will do the same for the IO path
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The question is what and how to do in the kata code (for now it’s hacks
on the side) - they would like to see an open source implementation for this
Action items:
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Samuel to share his slides
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Tao will share a slide on the next meeting helping understand the
interface the performance use case are focusing on
*Meeting notes:*
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E3GLCzNgrcigUlgWAZYlgqNTdVwiMwCRTJ0QnJhLZGA/edit#
Thanks.
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