(shameless plug) – I created a Dockerfile and some daemonsets, [1] (everything is a daemonset) for Kata which’ll include a static QEMU to provide similar ease-of-experience. Install on a cluster would be much easier; hoping that this becomes one of the standard/tested methods for Kata + K8S (review on this PR welcome: [2]). Or, maybe I’m missing the point on QEMU for runq. Thx, Eric -- [1] - https://github.com/egernst/kata-deploy [2] - https://github.com/kata-containers/packaging/pull/65 On 6/13/18, 7:59 AM, "Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE) via Kata-hypervisor" <kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io> wrote: Another runtime... https://github.com/gotoz/runq What I think is cool is that qemu isn't required to be installed on the host... they do it for you... but still uses qemu just a better user experience in terms of installation etc. _______________________________________________ Kata-hypervisor mailing list Kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io http://lists.katacontainers.io/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kata-hypervisor
oh yeah I mean I was not saying kata is hard to install your daemon sets are super dope :) just pointing out a different approach :) ________________________________________ From: Ernst, Eric <eric.ernst@intel.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:10 AM To: Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE); kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io Subject: Re: [Kata-hypervisor] runq (shameless plug) – I created a Dockerfile and some daemonsets, [1] (everything is a daemonset) for Kata which’ll include a static QEMU to provide similar ease-of-experience. Install on a cluster would be much easier; hoping that this becomes one of the standard/tested methods for Kata + K8S (review on this PR welcome: [2]). Or, maybe I’m missing the point on QEMU for runq. Thx, Eric -- [1] - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fegernst%2Fkata-deploy&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=FiinPJchk7ehZPW3Z5%2FGW5GuZ9nJSmFj5wP3riPyA4k%3D&reserved=0 [2] - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkata-containers%2Fpackaging%2Fpull%2F65&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=qrE1p1n9fGAEUDIdKLDllYDsbAKcfXH52NwyGKs4TtQ%3D&reserved=0 On 6/13/18, 7:59 AM, "Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE) via Kata-hypervisor" <kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io> wrote: Another runtime... https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgotoz%2Frunq&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=fg3WPKB%2BiXAYVv4AjYqoEESIOFcLV14HsnpI1Edka3U%3D&reserved=0 What I think is cool is that qemu isn't required to be installed on the host... they do it for you... but still uses qemu just a better user experience in terms of installation etc. _______________________________________________ Kata-hypervisor mailing list Kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.katacontainers.io%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkata-hypervisor&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=0kCLvvqVitWNNUrsT6p6NvYh4tGviwOGc0Vyvl6QDRA%3D&reserved=0
I expect their overhead is a lot higher ________________________________________ From: Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE) via Kata-hypervisor <kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:22 AM To: Ernst, Eric; kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io Subject: Re: [Kata-hypervisor] runq oh yeah I mean I was not saying kata is hard to install your daemon sets are super dope :) just pointing out a different approach :) ________________________________________ From: Ernst, Eric <eric.ernst@intel.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:10 AM To: Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE); kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io Subject: Re: [Kata-hypervisor] runq (shameless plug) – I created a Dockerfile and some daemonsets, [1] (everything is a daemonset) for Kata which’ll include a static QEMU to provide similar ease-of-experience. Install on a cluster would be much easier; hoping that this becomes one of the standard/tested methods for Kata + K8S (review on this PR welcome: [2]). Or, maybe I’m missing the point on QEMU for runq. Thx, Eric -- [1] - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fegernst%2Fkata-deploy&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=FiinPJchk7ehZPW3Z5%2FGW5GuZ9nJSmFj5wP3riPyA4k%3D&reserved=0 [2] - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkata-containers%2Fpackaging%2Fpull%2F65&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=qrE1p1n9fGAEUDIdKLDllYDsbAKcfXH52NwyGKs4TtQ%3D&reserved=0 On 6/13/18, 7:59 AM, "Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE) via Kata-hypervisor" <kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io> wrote: Another runtime... https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgotoz%2Frunq&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=fg3WPKB%2BiXAYVv4AjYqoEESIOFcLV14HsnpI1Edka3U%3D&reserved=0 What I think is cool is that qemu isn't required to be installed on the host... they do it for you... but still uses qemu just a better user experience in terms of installation etc. _______________________________________________ Kata-hypervisor mailing list Kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.katacontainers.io%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkata-hypervisor&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=0kCLvvqVitWNNUrsT6p6NvYh4tGviwOGc0Vyvl6QDRA%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Kata-hypervisor mailing list Kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.katacontainers.io%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkata-hypervisor&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C91dd7a344e304c0df14508d5d14180d5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636645001638208042&sdata=GTWqlGAo24jMD%2F3sU%2BzkWahjwiAYMkeEsJND4ynCYTk%3D&reserved=0
And, I didn’t actually dig in enough to realize they were doing qemu in a container. I get your point now about not being on the host. Mea culpa, thanks Jessie! On 6/13/18, 8:23 AM, "Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE)" <jessfraz@microsoft.com> wrote: I expect their overhead is a lot higher ________________________________________ From: Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE) via Kata-hypervisor <kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:22 AM To: Ernst, Eric; kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io Subject: Re: [Kata-hypervisor] runq oh yeah I mean I was not saying kata is hard to install your daemon sets are super dope :) just pointing out a different approach :) ________________________________________ From: Ernst, Eric <eric.ernst@intel.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:10 AM To: Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE); kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io Subject: Re: [Kata-hypervisor] runq (shameless plug) – I created a Dockerfile and some daemonsets, [1] (everything is a daemonset) for Kata which’ll include a static QEMU to provide similar ease-of-experience. Install on a cluster would be much easier; hoping that this becomes one of the standard/tested methods for Kata + K8S (review on this PR welcome: [2]). Or, maybe I’m missing the point on QEMU for runq. Thx, Eric -- [1] - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fegernst%2Fkata-deploy&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=FiinPJchk7ehZPW3Z5%2FGW5GuZ9nJSmFj5wP3riPyA4k%3D&reserved=0 [2] - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkata-containers%2Fpackaging%2Fpull%2F65&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=qrE1p1n9fGAEUDIdKLDllYDsbAKcfXH52NwyGKs4TtQ%3D&reserved=0 On 6/13/18, 7:59 AM, "Jessie Frazelle (TUPPERWARE) via Kata-hypervisor" <kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io> wrote: Another runtime... https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgotoz%2Frunq&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=fg3WPKB%2BiXAYVv4AjYqoEESIOFcLV14HsnpI1Edka3U%3D&reserved=0 What I think is cool is that qemu isn't required to be installed on the host... they do it for you... but still uses qemu just a better user experience in terms of installation etc. _______________________________________________ Kata-hypervisor mailing list Kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.katacontainers.io%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkata-hypervisor&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C7a29cd1d7a134cf8cb0608d5d13fca84%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636644994266398173&sdata=0kCLvvqVitWNNUrsT6p6NvYh4tGviwOGc0Vyvl6QDRA%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Kata-hypervisor mailing list Kata-hypervisor@lists.katacontainers.io https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.katacontainers.io%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkata-hypervisor&data=02%7C01%7Cjessfraz%40microsoft.com%7C91dd7a344e304c0df14508d5d14180d5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636645001638208042&sdata=GTWqlGAo24jMD%2F3sU%2BzkWahjwiAYMkeEsJND4ynCYTk%3D&reserved=0
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