[kata-dev] Shanghai PTG Changes

Xu Wang xu at hyper.sh
Wed Jun 12 02:32:39 UTC 2019

I like the Idea "Project teams could also do a combination of the two".

Actually, I cannot the difference between project onboarding and update, I
prefer to combine the two and have 40 minutes for it instead of 20min.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 6:58 AM Kendall Nelson <kennelson11 at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
> After Denver we were able to take time to reflect on the improvements we
> can make now that the PTG will occur immediately following the summit for
> the near future. While Shanghai will have its own set of variables, it's
> still good to reevaluate how we allocate time for groups and how we
> structure the week overall.
> tldr;
> - Onboarding is moving into the PTG for this round (updates stay a part of
> the Summit)
> - You can still do regular PTG stuff (or both onboarding and regular PTG
> stuff)
> - PTG slots can be as short as 1/4 of a day
> - More shared space at the Shanghai venue, less dedicated space
> - New breakdown: 1.5 days of Forum and 3.5 days of PTG
> - Survey will be out in a few weeks for requesting PTG space
> We'll have our traditional project team meetings at the PTG in Shanghai
> as the default format, that won't change.
> However, we know many of you don't expect to have all your regulars attend
> the PTG in Shanghai. To combat this and still help project teams make use
> of the PTG in the most effective way possible we are encouraging teams
> that want to meet but might not have all the people they need to have
> technical discussions to meet anyway and instead focus on a more thorough
> onboarding of our Chinese contributors.
> Project teams could also do a combination of the two, spend an hour and a
> half on onboarding (or however much time you see fit) and then have your
> regular technical discussions after. Project Updates will still be a part
> of the Summit like normal, its just the onboardings that will be compacted
> into the PTG for Shanghai.
> We are making PTG days more granular as well and will have the option to
> request 1/4 day slots in an effort to leave less empty space in the
> schedule.  So if you are only doing onboarding, you probably only need
> 1/4 to 1/2 of a day. If you are doing just your regular technical
> discussions and still need three days, thats fine too.
> The venue itself (similar to Denver) will have a few large rooms for
> bigger teams to meet, however, most teams will meet in shared space. For
> those teams meeting to have only technical discussions and for teams that
> have larger groups, we will try to prioritize giving them their own
> dedicated space. For the shared spaces, we will add to the PTGbot more
> clearly defined locations within the shared space so its easier to find
> teams meeting there.
> I regret to inform you that, again, projection will be a very limited
> commodity. Yeah.. please don't shoot the messenger. Due to using mainly
> shared space, projection is just something we are not able to offer.
> The other change I haven't already mentioned is that we are going to have
> the PTG start a half day early. Instead of only being 3 days like in
> Denver, we are going to add more time to the PTG and subtract a half day
> from the Forum. Basically the breakdown will be 1.5 Forum and 3.5 PTG with
> the Summit overlapping the first two days.
> I will be sending the PTG survey out to PTLs/Project Leads in a couple
> weeks with a few changes.
> -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
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Xu Wang
Senior Staff Engineer at AntFin
A member of Kata Containers project
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