[kata-dev] Proposal to migrate to a Slack alternative

Graham Hayes gr at ham.ie
Mon Mar 26 12:27:43 UTC 2018

On 24/03/18 03:22, Tao Peng wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Anne Bertucio <anne at openstack.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> With some of the changes to Slack’s terms of service and integrations with
>> IRC, I wanted to raise the idea of moving to an open source alternative to
>> Slack.
> Hi Anne,
> Most of the container ecosystem communities are doing just fine with
> slack so I want to understand why we want an alternative. What changes
> to Slack’s terms of service would scare us away?

There is a few reasons:

1. Slack announced the IRC/XMPP gateway is going to be removed
   a. This means that a lot of peoples prefered clients will no longer
   b. People are now forced to use the RAM / CPU hungry, proprietary
      Slack clients.
2. Slack just announced that workspace admins can now get access to
   private messages without notifying users that their chats were
3. Doing open source development in a closed source walled garden is not
   what all communities (or developers) want - supporting open standards
   is important.

Other communities are having these discussions as well, not just Kata.

>> The driver behind having an alternative to IRC was 1) some find IRC
>> intimidating 2) some are more likely to get involved in our community if
>> there’s a communication GUI that they’re familiar with.
> I see these are cons of IRC but they are not the reasons to drop slack right?
> Cheers,
> Tao
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