Hey James,
I think we could yes. Would 2h later work for Mike? It'd be 7am PST, so still early but more on the reasonable side?
Cheers, Samuel.
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 06:22:13PM +0000, James Magowan wrote:
Hi Samuel,
I have spoken to Mike from containerd, He indicated that our Use Case meeting time is a bit early for many of the people working in containerd who might be interested.
I wonder if we can have the meeting a little later next week to accomodate?
Thanks, James
James Magowan
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From: Samuel Ortiz sameo@linux.intel.com To: James Magowan MAGOWAN@uk.ibm.com Cc: Ariel Adam aadam@redhat.com, Peng Tao bergwolf@antfin.com, kata-dev kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io Date: 12/05/2021 13:22 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [kata-dev] Community use cases meeting (Confidential Computing)
Hi James,
Do you confirm you'll be able to present tomorrow during our weekly meeting? If so I'll add you (or someone else on your side) to the agenda. Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Samuel.
On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 04:07:18PM +0000, James Magowan wrote:
Hi,
I mentioned at next meeting presenting the work and ideas which we have been trying out for s390x around the image pull challenges and future ideas. With holidays in China for our main presenter and KubeCon next week I
hope
it will be OK for us to present this and some ideas for possible extensions to shim api etc the following week? So Thursday 13th May.
Thanks
James Magowan IBM Hyper Protect Containers (ZaaS Kubernetes)
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From: Samuel Ortiz sameo@linux.intel.com To: Ariel Adam aadam@redhat.com, kata-dev kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io Cc: Peng Tao bergwolf@antfin.com Date: 29/04/2021 15:41 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [kata-dev] Community use cases meeting
Thanks everyone for joining today's meeting, very interesting discussions.
Please note that we decided to move to a weekly cadence, we have a lot to talk about it seems.
Below you will find the meeting minutes, extracted from the rolling meeting notes document [1]
- Current set of pull requests related to enablement (3 PRs)
- How do we want to proceed with those PRs?
- Samuel thinks that merging the TDX could help overall (a few more comments to request). The idea would be to rebase the 2 others on
top
of this one. Any objections?
- We agree to merge the framework first and pile the other patches on
top of it :-)
- Agent API - discussion on what API restrictions we need (build time
option or not)
- What is the risk of having this code in the image however just not
used?
- It could be a runtime configuration for the agent however still part
of the image (inside the initrd)
- We may have benefits from restricting the APIs (reducing attack
surface)
- Could we limit things to always getting all the pod configuration at once (and nothing else?)
- So the idea would be to drop those APIs for all use cases
- Container image service offload
- PEV raksh codebase ->
https://github.com/IBM/raksh-agent/commit/14b52fae8c7bc3ce4b226703efdb37749c...
- Testing for confidential computing - and general expectations
- A big question regarding how to test the different platform so it’s something accessible upstream (SEV and TDX)
- Intel will provide HW for testing as part of the kata CI
- Can AMD also provide HW for the kata CI?
- Sandeep pointed out they have the HW for this however the question
is
how to make the HW available for kata CI testing
- What tests would we want to run in this case?
- Samuel will pull Salvador to look into this
- We may start by looking at the integration tests and later on E2E integration with k8s
- Action Items
- Ariel to change the name of the meeting to confidential computing
- Ariel to change the meeting cadence to a weekly one
- Samuel to send a doodle to poll for meeting time changes
[1]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E3GLCzNgrcigUlgWAZYlgqNTdVwiMwCRTJ0QnJhL...
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:23:23PM +0200, Samuel Ortiz wrote:
All,
A friendly reminder that we will have our weekly use case meeting tomorrow (04/29) at 12:00 UTC. See you all tomorrow!
Cheers, Samuel.
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:12:34PM +0300, Ariel Adam wrote:
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 2:25 PM James Magowan MAGOWAN@uk.ibm.com
wrote:
Hi Ariel/Samuel,
Moving Confidential computing Use Case meeting is fine for me.
Given recent fun with summer savings time and the dates/times in
the
thread.
Can we clarify that meetings will be? every 2 weeks at 12:00 UTC
next meetings Thursday 29th April, Thursday 13th May etc.
I've moved the meeting 1 week forward to April the 29th and verified
that
the only invitee is kata-dev mailing list.
The meeting will be at 12:00 UTC and happen every 2 weeks. I will also make sure to send a reminder a day before the meeting
(every 2
weeks).
Lastly, I'm reminding everyone that this time slot is mainly for the confidential computing use case and the CI/CD and performance use
cases
will be discussed at other times.
Thanks.
Thanks,
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From: Ariel Adam aadam@redhat.com To: Samuel Ortiz sameo@linux.intel.com, Eric Ernst < eric.g.ernst@gmail.com>, Peng Tao bergwolf@antfin.com, kata-dev
<
kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io> Date: 18/04/2021 18:42 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [kata-dev] Community use cases
meeting
Since you're leading the confidential computing use case which we
agreed
Thursday's time slot would be used for then to me that makes
sense.
Does anyone object to moving the meeting by 1 week (as usual every
2
weeks
from there)?
Also, a few people pointed out that they don't see the meeting or
still
see it every 2 weeks instead of 1 week. We basically sent an
invite
to the
kata-dev for every 2 weeks so if anyone has a better idea on how
to
do that
please let us know :-).
Thanks.
On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 8:32 PM Samuel Ortiz
<*sameo@linux.intel.com*
sameo@linux.intel.com> wrote:
Ariel,
Next week's meeting (04/21), I will be out of the office and won't
be
able to attend the meeting. Would anyone object if we shift that
one
to
04/28 instead ?
Cheers, Samuel.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 01:27:54PM +0300, Ariel Adam wrote:
Hi everyone. Going back to this mail thread. Talking with Samuel it will be hard for him to move the time
slot
for the
confidential computing use case (currently on Thursday every 2
weeks 8AM
EST).
What we suggest is the following:
- *Confidential computing* - will keep the current timeslot,
please
ping
Samuel directly if you would like to attend and this is a
problem for
you
- *CI/CD use case* - in practice it's only RH and IBM cloud
thus we
will
work mainly through mails (and ping me if you are also
interested in
this)
- *Performance isolation* - Tao will work on a different time
slot to
fit people who would like to attend as well (such as Eric)
As pointed, we will ask to provide a status on the use cases
progress
during the AC meetings if time permits.
Comments are welcomed.
Thanks.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 5:08 PM Eric Ernst
<*eric.g.ernst@gmail.com*
eric.g.ernst@gmail.com> wrote:
> Makes sense to me, and I appreciate the change! > > Eric > > On Apr 7, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Ariel Adam <*aadam@redhat.com*
aadam@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Given that Tao agrees this makes sense I checked with Samuel
as
well.
> > What we suggest is that each use case leads (Ariel, Samuel,
Tao)
will
send
> a separate doodle poll for their use case. > That way each of the use case teams can decide on a time that
fits the
> majority of participants and also on the cadence of the
meetings
(every 1
> or 2 weeks). > > We will also propose to give a short update on the progress of
the
> different use cases on the weekly AC meeting (if time
permits).
> > Let us know if anyone has any objections before we send out
the
doodle
> polls. > > Thanks. > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:03 PM Peng Tao via kata-dev < > *kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io*
kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io>
wrote:
> >> Thanks for bringing it to the list Fabiano! I am interested
in
the
>> performance isolation use case and would love to see US folks
present
>> their thoughts and ideas too. So I am all for it to split the
use case
>> meeting and relocate to a time that works better for US
folks.
>> >> Cheers, >> Tao >> >> On 2021/4/7 16:26, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote: >> > Yesterday, Apr 6th, during the Architecture Committee
meeting, we
>> > discussed the possibility of having the community use cases
meeting
>> > split, and I assigned myself the action item to create a
doodle and
>> > send an email. >> > >> > Well, let me start saying that I may have failed in the
doodle
thing,
>> > but I still am dropping the email with what I heard as a
feedback
and
>> > what I would like to suggest. >> > >> > I got the feedback, from more than one person, that the
time
for the
>> > community use cases meeting is not exactly optimal for
everyone, and
>> > that is right. For instance, it may be too early for folks
in some
>> > parts of the US, while it is still too late for folks in
Australia.
>> > >> > With this in mind, I would like to ask whether there is the
interest
>> > to split the meeting, allowing then the involved parts to
talk to
each
>> > other in a time that suits them best. >> > >> > So, this message is for everyone, but here I am explicitly
looking
for
>> > feedback from folks interested in: >> > * K8S CI/CD pipeline with kata containers >> > - Here we have people interested from the US and
Australia, so
maybe
>> > a late meeting in the US time zone would benefit the folks
in
>> > Australia. >> > * Performance isolation >> > - Here we have people interested from the US and China,
so
maybe
a
>> > late meeting in the US time zone would benefit the folks in
China.
>> > >> > If the parts involved in this have the interest to do so,
let
me
know
>> > and then I will try to organise a doodle, set an official
time, etc,
>> > etc, etc. >> > >> > We, as the community facilitating this communication, are
here to
>> > facilitate the communication in a way that it will be
beneficial for
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