<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 19 Apr 2021, at 19:12, Ariel Adam <<a href="mailto:aadam@redhat.com" class="">aadam@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 2:25 PM James Magowan <<a href="mailto:MAGOWAN@uk.ibm.com" class="">MAGOWAN@uk.ibm.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Hi Ariel/Samuel,</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Moving Confidential computing Use Case meeting is fine for me.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Given recent fun with summer savings time and the dates/times in the thread.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Can we clarify that meetings will be?</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">every 2 weeks at 12:00 UTC</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="https://zoom.us/j/98038141932" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: blue; font-family: "Default MultiLingual";" class="">https://zoom.us/j/98038141932</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">next meetings Thursday 29th April, Thursday 13th May etc.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've moved the meeting 1 week forward to April the 29th and verified that the only invitee is kata-dev mailing list. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I still don't see it. So the use of kata-dev may be the problem.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Do we know for a fact that Google Calendar correctly works with mailing lists?</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The meeting will be at 12:00 UTC and happen every 2 weeks.</div><div class="">I will also make sure to send a reminder a day before the meeting (every 2 weeks).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lastly, I'm reminding everyone that this time slot is mainly for the confidential computing use case and the CI/CD and performance use cases will be discussed at other times. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks. </div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Thanks,</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">James<br class=""></span><table width="650" style="border-collapse: collapse;" class=""><tbody class=""><tr height="8" class=""><td width="650" colspan="2" style="border: 0px none rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0px;" class=""></td></tr><tr valign="top" height="8" class=""><td width="411" style="border: 0px none rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(65, 129, 192);" class=""><b class="">Mobile:</b></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>44-7808-247946</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(65, 129, 192);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Phone:</b></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>44-1962-817235</span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(65, 129, 192);" class=""><b class="">E-mail:</b></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:MAGOWAN@uk.ibm.com" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class=""><u class="">MAGOWAN@uk.ibm.com</u></span></a></div></td><td width="238" style="border: 0px none rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0px;" class=""><div align="right" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class="">Hursley Park</span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class="">Hursley, Hampshire SO212JN</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);" class="">United Kingdom</span></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">IBM United Kingdom Limited</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Registered in England and Wales with number 741598</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hants. PO6 3AU</span></div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95); font-family: sans-serif;" class="">From: </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Ariel Adam <<a href="mailto:aadam@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">aadam@redhat.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95); font-family: sans-serif;" class="">To: </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Samuel Ortiz <<a href="mailto:sameo@linux.intel.com" target="_blank" class="">sameo@linux.intel.com</a>>, Eric Ernst <<a href="mailto:eric.g.ernst@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">eric.g.ernst@gmail.com</a>>, Peng Tao <<a href="mailto:bergwolf@antfin.com" target="_blank" class="">bergwolf@antfin.com</a>>, kata-dev <<a href="mailto:kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io" target="_blank" class="">kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95); font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Date: </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">18/04/2021 18:42</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(95, 95, 95); font-family: sans-serif;" class="">Subject: </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class="">[EXTERNAL] Re: [kata-dev] Community use cases meeting</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><hr noshade="" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Since you're leading the confidential computing use case which we agreed Thursday's time slot would be used for then to me that makes sense.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Does anyone object to moving the meeting by 1 week (as usual every 2 weeks from there)?</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Also, a few people pointed out that they don't see the meeting or still see it every 2 weeks instead of 1 week. We basically sent an invite to the kata-dev for every 2 weeks so if anyone has a better idea on how to do that please let us know :-).</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Thanks. </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 8:32 PM Samuel Ortiz <</span><a href="mailto:sameo@linux.intel.com" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;" class=""><u class="">sameo@linux.intel.com</u></span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">> wrote:</span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Ariel,<br class=""><br class="">Next week's meeting (04/21), I will be out of the office and won't be<br class="">able to attend the meeting. Would anyone object if we shift that one to<br class="">04/28 instead ?<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Samuel.<br class=""><br class="">On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 01:27:54PM +0300, Ariel Adam wrote:<br class="">> Hi everyone.<br class="">> Going back to this mail thread.<br class="">> Talking with Samuel it will be hard for him to move the time slot for the<br class="">> confidential computing use case (currently on Thursday every 2 weeks 8AM<br class="">> EST).<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> What we suggest is the following:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> - *Confidential computing* - will keep the current timeslot, please ping<br class="">> Samuel directly if you would like to attend and this is a problem for you<br class="">> - *CI/CD use case* - in practice it's only RH and IBM cloud thus we will<br class="">> work mainly through mails (and ping me if you are also interested in this)<br class="">> - *Performance isolation* - Tao will work on a different time slot to<br class="">> fit people who would like to attend as well (such as Eric)<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> As pointed, we will ask to provide a status on the use cases progress<br class="">> during the AC meetings if time permits.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Comments are welcomed.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Thanks.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 5:08 PM Eric Ernst <</span><a href="mailto:eric.g.ernst@gmail.com" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;" class=""><u class="">eric.g.ernst@gmail.com</u></span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > Makes sense to me, and I appreciate the change!<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Eric<br class="">> ><br class="">> > On Apr 7, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Ariel Adam <</span><a href="mailto:aadam@redhat.com" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;" class=""><u class="">aadam@redhat.com</u></span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">> wrote:<br class="">> ><br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > Given that Tao agrees this makes sense I checked with Samuel as well.<br class="">> ><br class="">> > What we suggest is that each use case leads (Ariel, Samuel, Tao) will send<br class="">> > a separate doodle poll for their use case.<br class="">> > That way each of the use case teams can decide on a time that fits the<br class="">> > majority of participants and also on the cadence of the meetings (every 1<br class="">> > or 2 weeks).<br class="">> ><br class="">> > We will also propose to give a short update on the progress of the<br class="">> > different use cases on the weekly AC meeting (if time permits).<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Let us know if anyone has any objections before we send out the doodle<br class="">> > polls.<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Thanks.<br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:03 PM Peng Tao via kata-dev <<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;" class=""><u class="">kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io</u></span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">> wrote:<br class="">> ><br class="">> >> Thanks for bringing it to the list Fabiano! I am interested in the<br class="">> >> performance isolation use case and would love to see US folks present<br class="">> >> their thoughts and ideas too. So I am all for it to split the use case<br class="">> >> meeting and relocate to a time that works better for US folks.<br class="">> >><br class="">> >> Cheers,<br class="">> >> Tao<br class="">> >><br class="">> >> On 2021/4/7 16:26, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:<br class="">> >> > Yesterday, Apr 6th, during the Architecture Committee meeting, we<br class="">> >> > discussed the possibility of having the community use cases meeting<br class="">> >> > split, and I assigned myself the action item to create a doodle and<br class="">> >> > send an email.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > Well, let me start saying that I may have failed in the doodle thing,<br class="">> >> > but I still am dropping the email with what I heard as a feedback and<br class="">> >> > what I would like to suggest.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > I got the feedback, from more than one person, that the time for the<br class="">> >> > community use cases meeting is not exactly optimal for everyone, and<br class="">> >> > that is right. For instance, it may be too early for folks in some<br class="">> >> > parts of the US, while it is still too late for folks in Australia.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > With this in mind, I would like to ask whether there is the interest<br class="">> >> > to split the meeting, allowing then the involved parts to talk to each<br class="">> >> > other in a time that suits them best.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > So, this message is for everyone, but here I am explicitly looking for<br class="">> >> > feedback from folks interested in:<br class="">> >> > * K8S CI/CD pipeline with kata containers<br class="">> >> > - Here we have people interested from the US and Australia, so maybe<br class="">> >> > a late meeting in the US time zone would benefit the folks in<br class="">> >> > Australia.<br class="">> >> > * Performance isolation<br class="">> >> > - Here we have people interested from the US and China, so maybe a<br class="">> >> > late meeting in the US time zone would benefit the folks in China.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > If the parts involved in this have the interest to do so, let me know<br class="">> >> > and then I will try to organise a doodle, set an official time, etc,<br class="">> >> > etc, etc.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > We, as the community facilitating this communication, are here to<br class="">> >> > facilitate the communication in a way that it will be beneficial for<br class="">> >> > all the involved parts.<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >> > Best Regards,<br class="">> >> ><br class="">> >><br class="">> >> --<br class="">> >> Into something rich and strange.<br class="">> >><br class="">> >> _______________________________________________<br class="">> >> kata-dev mailing list<br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:kata-dev@lists.katacontainers.io" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; 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